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Pine Labs

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175.90+5.82%

Q2 FY27 earnings call · Guided by management

Call held 29 Oct 2026 · Read the filing on NSEFiling

23–23.5​%Revenue growth · FY27Rau · p. 28
70​%UPI transaction growth · UPI · next yearRau · Q&A · p. 9
52–55​%Contribution margin · issuanceKamath · Q&A · p. 24
₹35–40​CrCapex slipped from Q4 to Q1Kamath · Q&A · p. 13
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Results Q2 FY27, as filed · consolidated · ₹ Cr

Q2 FY27Q2 FY26YoYQ1 FY27QoQ
Revenue806650+24.0%737+9.4%
PBTProfit before tax6111+446.5%38+62.7%
Net profit396+546.1%20+97.1%
EPS (₹)0.330.06+450.0%0.17+94.1%

From the company's own results filing on NSE. Net profit is the owners' share. Growth and the dotted lines are worked out from the filed figures. In Q1 FY27 the filing tags the owners' profit as ₹0 Cr against its own period profit; the period profit less minority interest is shown.

Guidance

Revenue growth · FY2723-23.50%FY27 revenue growth expected above the 23%-23.5% guided at start of year
EBITDA margin · FY2721%Full-year EBITDA margin expected at 21% at least
Margin · long term72-75%Overall contribution margin guided at 72% to 75%
Margin · issuance · long term52-55%Reason given: distribution ramped up for integrated use cases
Capex · FY27Rs 35-40 CrAbout Rs 35-40 crore of capex slipped from Q4 to Q1 on chip problems

H2 EBITDA expected much higher than H1

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 20
“Anyways, as you drive more of flow-based income of our platforms, our EBITDA will continue to expand. I do expect the H2 EBITDA will be at a much higher position than where it was for H1.”

More figures from the call

UPI · Guidance
10,00,000​soundboxesSoundboxes to be deployed
“So I think we will be able to capture and that is one of the things, which led me to turn around and say that we will be deploying at least 10 lakh more soundboxes in the market.”
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&Ap. 10
Company · Guidance
13–15​%Net working capital as share of top line · FY27
“But for the full year basis, we remain guided to that range, which we have, which is about 13% to 15%.”
Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&Ap. 24
issuance · Guidance
52–56​%Contribution margin
“So we have always guided that that will be in the range of 52% to 56%. We will be in that range.”
Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&Ap. 24
Company · Capex
₹20–25​CrDevice advances in capex
“So almost about Rs.20-25 Crores of advance for which procurements are still to happen, are sitting in the capex which you have seen.”
Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&Ap. 13
Company · Margins and costs
8–9​%Cloud and data cost as share of top line
“So that cost will remain variable to about 8% or 9% of top line.”
Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&Ap. 14
UPI · Other
₹80–230​CrPotential UPI MDR income
“But the numbers and the calculation that you have shown in general is correct. If you ask me, having said that we just want to look at our business, what is under our control, and we will just wait till this whole MDR gets implemented.”
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&Ap. 18

In short

  1. 01Management expects FY27 revenue growth above the 23%-23.5% it guided at the start of the year.
  2. 02CEO expects full-year EBITDA margin of at least 21% and says guidance will not be lowered.
  3. 03Q2 revenue grew about 24% and adjusted EBITDA about 27% year-on-year.
  4. 04Company plans to deploy at least 10 lakh more soundboxes to capture UPI transactions in its base.
  5. 05CEO confirmed an analyst's Rs 80-230 crore range for possible UPI MDR income, but MDR timing is up to NPCI.
  6. 06Net working capital guided at about 13% to 15% of top line for the full year.
  7. 07Contribution margin guided at 72% to 75% overall, issuance at 52% to 55%.
  8. 08A large retailer's exit from Singapore cut Q2 gift card distribution revenue, with no material EBITDA impact.

Capex

Capex otherwise seen at steady state levels across the two years

Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 13
“I think adjusted for these, there will be a normalized increase in the business given the opportunity we see. Otherwise, I think you will see more or less steady state numbers across the two years.”

UPI: Soundbox capex immaterial; sales staff is the bigger cost

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&A · p. 19
“But in terms of pure soundbox-related expenses and capex, I still think that it is the immaterial number.”

Segments

mid market: About 100,000 terminals deployed in mid market over trailing 12 months

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 4
“on a trailing 12 month basis, we have almost deployed close to about 100,000 terminals in the mid market segment.”

enterprise: Now deployed across all Tanishq stores in Q2

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 4
“long period of time and through this Q2 we are now deployed all across all the stores of Tanishq.”

offline enterprise: Company keeps 100% of its enterprise accounts in offline business

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 3
“On the offline side of the business, on the enterprise accounts, we continue to hold on to 100% of our businesses out there.”

issuing processing: Issuing processing holds about 80% to 85% of the market

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 5
“On the processing side, as you know, we already have about 80% to 85% of the market.”

issuing: About 25,000 to 30,000 Bharat Yatra transit cards distributed a month

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 5
“we now distributed somewhere close to 25,000 to 30,000 cards on a monthly basis on the Bharat Yatra prepaid card, which is being used for daily transit.”

Demand

Volumes grew about 50% on UPI market share gains

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 4
“The volumes grew in a little higher, came in at about 50% because we have actually again gained market share on the UPI side and that is the reason why the volumes are almost at 50%.”

Navratri and Dussehra strong; Diwali picture in about two weeks

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&A · p. 8
“Navratri and Dussehra were extremely strong. So as far as the Navratri and Dussehra period was concerned, I have nothing to worry about in terms of what has happened in those days. However, when it comes to Diwali, I think we will know in the next two weeks.”

UPI: 75% to 77% of POS transactions are now UPI

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&A · p. 9
“75% to 77% of the transactions on our POS machine is now a UPI transaction. Only 25% is a card based transaction.”

UPI: Acquirer share of 40 bps UPI MDR seen at about 11 bps

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&A · p. 11
“So what we felt was everybody has heard the 40 basis points which are going to come out. I think it is fairly clear that to the acquirer going to be anywhere about 11 basis points.”

mid market: Mid-market merchants growing at 40% on UPI rails

Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 10
“a large part of our base also now comes from the mid market segment where they are going at 40% and we are all on the transaction rails there.”

Margins and costs

New sales staff take about nine months to become productive

9​months
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 19
“However, what happens in the payment business is when you actually go ahead into a sales team expansion, the sales team becomes productive and remunerative only over a nine month period as such.”

international: More sales staff being deployed in international markets in H2

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 7
“We are also deploying more sales people in the international markets because of these wins that we have created in the international market.”

Headcount about 5,200; net 675-680 added, mostly sales

Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 17
“No, I think we are about 5200 people. If you see we have added net about 675 to about 680 people. Almost all of those people are in sales and are some bit of field ops”

Sales hiring will raise the wage bill from Q1 and Q2 levels

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&A · p. 17
“So we have made investments on the sales people side, which will have an increase from the number that you would have seen in Q1 and Q2 when it comes to sales people and the overall wage bill.”

DITP: DITP business margins held at 81% to 83%

Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 24
“Within those businesses, the DITP business continues to hold healthy margins between 81% to 82%, 83%.”

Debt and working capital

Q2 cash flow not to be extrapolated

Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 24
“I would not extrapolate this quarter. I would say we have done well in this quarter, but it is not to be extrapolated.”

Festive early settlements and Diwali offers drive the quarterly cash flow cycle

Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 25
“Because large part of the, depending on how the festive season goes, the early settlements will come in, offers come in. I think a lot of offers will come in during Diwali. So all of that will lead to that cycle.”

Acquisitions and new business

issuing: Employee tax benefit card to launch by end of November

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 5
“By the end of November, we will have an employee tax benefit card out in the market that effectively will allow us to go back to the corporates that we have any which way been working with”

Open-sourced agent tools; consumer agent payment solution in works

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&A · p. 28
“We have actually been working on the solution over the next two months and looking forward to what we will deploy when it comes to payment services from a consumer standpoint.”

issuing: New issuing use cases to launch in November

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 5
“we are seeing more new use cases come up on the issuing side of the business and we will be launching them in the month of November.”

One-offs

GFF sponsorship cost moved to Q2 this year from Q3 last year

Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 14
“GFF happened in Q3 last year, GFF happened in Q2 this year, so that is a cost which is switched between quarters”

Risks

UPI: No view on when UPI MDR goes live; decision rests with NPCI

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 7
“I have nothing more to add in terms of when UPI MDR will go live. Ball is completely in NPCI's court.”

UPI: Passing UPI MDR to largest merchants will need commercial talks

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&A · p. 10
“From a commercial standpoint, I absolutely do believe when it comes to the largest of large merchants that we have with us, there will be a commercial conversation to be had for sure.”

Chip shortage: vendors ask about 80% advance versus 20% earlier

Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 13
“you also are now having to pay almost 80% advance to lock-in prices given that chip shortages are there, the vendors earlier worked on 20% advance, they want higher advances.”

international: Large retailer's Singapore exit cut Q2 gift card distribution revenue

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&A · p. 15
“one of the largest retailers in the world has actually decided to move out of the Singapore market. So the distribution of those cards in the Singapore market is a business which has actually been reduced in Q2 for us very specifically.”

international: Lost Singapore card revenue had no material EBITDA impact

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&A · p. 16
“So some of that revenues have actually gone away, but you are not seeing any material impact of that when it comes to the EBITDA line.”

Other

Q2 revenue grew about 24% and adjusted EBITDA about 27% year-on-year

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 3
“So as you know, we came in at about 24% growth on the revenue side and as far as EBITDA is concerned, adjusted EBITDA is concerned, we came in at about 27% growth on a year-on-year basis”

flow based income: Flow-based income grew about 25% year-on-year

Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 4
“Coming to the flow based income, the flow based income in Pine Labs actually grew by about 25% on a year-on-year basis.”

Effective tax rate lower than previous quarter

Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 16
“Also, we see an effective tax rate, Nitin, has gone down compared to the earlier quarter”

international: International mix is a long-term measure, not quarterly

Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 15
“So mix is a long-term guidance. It is not something that can be trapped on a quarter-on-quarter basis.”

Sources

Management's own statements, quoted from its NSE filings. This page was read by AI and can contain mistakes: check the source pages before relying on any figure. No forecast or opinion of ours. Not investment advice.

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