Financial Services · NSE: PINELABS
Pine Labs
Q2 FY27 earnings call · Guided by management
Call held 29 Oct 2026 · Read the filing on NSEFiling
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Results Q2 FY27, as filed · consolidated · ₹ Cr
| Q2 FY27 | Q2 FY26 | YoY | Q1 FY27 | QoQ | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Revenue | 806 | 650 | +24.0% | 737 | +9.4% |
| PBTProfit before tax | 61 | 11 | +446.5% | 38 | +62.7% |
| Net profit | 39 | 6 | +546.1% | 20 | +97.1% |
| EPS (₹) | 0.33 | 0.06 | +450.0% | 0.17 | +94.1% |
From the company's own results filing on NSE. Net profit is the owners' share. Growth and the dotted lines are worked out from the filed figures. In Q1 FY27 the filing tags the owners' profit as ₹0 Cr against its own period profit; the period profit less minority interest is shown.
Guidance
H2 EBITDA expected much higher than H1
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 20
H2 EBITDA expected much higher than H1
“Anyways, as you drive more of flow-based income of our platforms, our EBITDA will continue to expand. I do expect the H2 EBITDA will be at a much higher position than where it was for H1.”
More figures from the call
“So I think we will be able to capture and that is one of the things, which led me to turn around and say that we will be deploying at least 10 lakh more soundboxes in the market.”
“But for the full year basis, we remain guided to that range, which we have, which is about 13% to 15%.”
“So we have always guided that that will be in the range of 52% to 56%. We will be in that range.”
“So almost about Rs.20-25 Crores of advance for which procurements are still to happen, are sitting in the capex which you have seen.”
“So that cost will remain variable to about 8% or 9% of top line.”
“But the numbers and the calculation that you have shown in general is correct. If you ask me, having said that we just want to look at our business, what is under our control, and we will just wait till this whole MDR gets implemented.”
In short
- 01Management expects FY27 revenue growth above the 23%-23.5% it guided at the start of the year.
- 02CEO expects full-year EBITDA margin of at least 21% and says guidance will not be lowered.
- 03Q2 revenue grew about 24% and adjusted EBITDA about 27% year-on-year.
- 04Company plans to deploy at least 10 lakh more soundboxes to capture UPI transactions in its base.
- 05CEO confirmed an analyst's Rs 80-230 crore range for possible UPI MDR income, but MDR timing is up to NPCI.
- 06Net working capital guided at about 13% to 15% of top line for the full year.
- 07Contribution margin guided at 72% to 75% overall, issuance at 52% to 55%.
- 08A large retailer's exit from Singapore cut Q2 gift card distribution revenue, with no material EBITDA impact.
Capex
Capex otherwise seen at steady state levels across the two years
Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 13
Capex otherwise seen at steady state levels across the two years
“I think adjusted for these, there will be a normalized increase in the business given the opportunity we see. Otherwise, I think you will see more or less steady state numbers across the two years.”
UPI: Soundbox capex immaterial; sales staff is the bigger cost
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&A · p. 19
UPI: Soundbox capex immaterial; sales staff is the bigger cost
“But in terms of pure soundbox-related expenses and capex, I still think that it is the immaterial number.”
Segments
mid market: About 100,000 terminals deployed in mid market over trailing 12 months
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 4
mid market: About 100,000 terminals deployed in mid market over trailing 12 months
“on a trailing 12 month basis, we have almost deployed close to about 100,000 terminals in the mid market segment.”
enterprise: Now deployed across all Tanishq stores in Q2
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 4
enterprise: Now deployed across all Tanishq stores in Q2
“long period of time and through this Q2 we are now deployed all across all the stores of Tanishq.”
offline enterprise: Company keeps 100% of its enterprise accounts in offline business
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 3
offline enterprise: Company keeps 100% of its enterprise accounts in offline business
“On the offline side of the business, on the enterprise accounts, we continue to hold on to 100% of our businesses out there.”
issuing processing: Issuing processing holds about 80% to 85% of the market
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 5
issuing processing: Issuing processing holds about 80% to 85% of the market
“On the processing side, as you know, we already have about 80% to 85% of the market.”
issuing: About 25,000 to 30,000 Bharat Yatra transit cards distributed a month
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 5
issuing: About 25,000 to 30,000 Bharat Yatra transit cards distributed a month
“we now distributed somewhere close to 25,000 to 30,000 cards on a monthly basis on the Bharat Yatra prepaid card, which is being used for daily transit.”
Demand
Volumes grew about 50% on UPI market share gains
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 4
Volumes grew about 50% on UPI market share gains
“The volumes grew in a little higher, came in at about 50% because we have actually again gained market share on the UPI side and that is the reason why the volumes are almost at 50%.”
Navratri and Dussehra strong; Diwali picture in about two weeks
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&A · p. 8
Navratri and Dussehra strong; Diwali picture in about two weeks
“Navratri and Dussehra were extremely strong. So as far as the Navratri and Dussehra period was concerned, I have nothing to worry about in terms of what has happened in those days. However, when it comes to Diwali, I think we will know in the next two weeks.”
UPI: 75% to 77% of POS transactions are now UPI
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&A · p. 9
UPI: 75% to 77% of POS transactions are now UPI
“75% to 77% of the transactions on our POS machine is now a UPI transaction. Only 25% is a card based transaction.”
UPI: Acquirer share of 40 bps UPI MDR seen at about 11 bps
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&A · p. 11
UPI: Acquirer share of 40 bps UPI MDR seen at about 11 bps
“So what we felt was everybody has heard the 40 basis points which are going to come out. I think it is fairly clear that to the acquirer going to be anywhere about 11 basis points.”
mid market: Mid-market merchants growing at 40% on UPI rails
Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 10
mid market: Mid-market merchants growing at 40% on UPI rails
“a large part of our base also now comes from the mid market segment where they are going at 40% and we are all on the transaction rails there.”
Margins and costs
New sales staff take about nine months to become productive
9monthsAmrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 19
New sales staff take about nine months to become productive
9months“However, what happens in the payment business is when you actually go ahead into a sales team expansion, the sales team becomes productive and remunerative only over a nine month period as such.”
international: More sales staff being deployed in international markets in H2
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 7
international: More sales staff being deployed in international markets in H2
“We are also deploying more sales people in the international markets because of these wins that we have created in the international market.”
Headcount about 5,200; net 675-680 added, mostly sales
Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 17
Headcount about 5,200; net 675-680 added, mostly sales
“No, I think we are about 5200 people. If you see we have added net about 675 to about 680 people. Almost all of those people are in sales and are some bit of field ops”
Sales hiring will raise the wage bill from Q1 and Q2 levels
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&A · p. 17
Sales hiring will raise the wage bill from Q1 and Q2 levels
“So we have made investments on the sales people side, which will have an increase from the number that you would have seen in Q1 and Q2 when it comes to sales people and the overall wage bill.”
DITP: DITP business margins held at 81% to 83%
Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 24
DITP: DITP business margins held at 81% to 83%
“Within those businesses, the DITP business continues to hold healthy margins between 81% to 82%, 83%.”
Debt and working capital
Q2 cash flow not to be extrapolated
Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 24
Q2 cash flow not to be extrapolated
“I would not extrapolate this quarter. I would say we have done well in this quarter, but it is not to be extrapolated.”
Festive early settlements and Diwali offers drive the quarterly cash flow cycle
Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 25
Festive early settlements and Diwali offers drive the quarterly cash flow cycle
“Because large part of the, depending on how the festive season goes, the early settlements will come in, offers come in. I think a lot of offers will come in during Diwali. So all of that will lead to that cycle.”
Acquisitions and new business
issuing: Employee tax benefit card to launch by end of November
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 5
issuing: Employee tax benefit card to launch by end of November
“By the end of November, we will have an employee tax benefit card out in the market that effectively will allow us to go back to the corporates that we have any which way been working with”
Open-sourced agent tools; consumer agent payment solution in works
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&A · p. 28
Open-sourced agent tools; consumer agent payment solution in works
“We have actually been working on the solution over the next two months and looking forward to what we will deploy when it comes to payment services from a consumer standpoint.”
issuing: New issuing use cases to launch in November
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 5
issuing: New issuing use cases to launch in November
“we are seeing more new use cases come up on the issuing side of the business and we will be launching them in the month of November.”
One-offs
GFF sponsorship cost moved to Q2 this year from Q3 last year
Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 14
GFF sponsorship cost moved to Q2 this year from Q3 last year
“GFF happened in Q3 last year, GFF happened in Q2 this year, so that is a cost which is switched between quarters”
Risks
UPI: No view on when UPI MDR goes live; decision rests with NPCI
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 7
UPI: No view on when UPI MDR goes live; decision rests with NPCI
“I have nothing more to add in terms of when UPI MDR will go live. Ball is completely in NPCI's court.”
UPI: Passing UPI MDR to largest merchants will need commercial talks
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&A · p. 10
UPI: Passing UPI MDR to largest merchants will need commercial talks
“From a commercial standpoint, I absolutely do believe when it comes to the largest of large merchants that we have with us, there will be a commercial conversation to be had for sure.”
Chip shortage: vendors ask about 80% advance versus 20% earlier
Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 13
Chip shortage: vendors ask about 80% advance versus 20% earlier
“you also are now having to pay almost 80% advance to lock-in prices given that chip shortages are there, the vendors earlier worked on 20% advance, they want higher advances.”
international: Large retailer's Singapore exit cut Q2 gift card distribution revenue
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&A · p. 15
international: Large retailer's Singapore exit cut Q2 gift card distribution revenue
“one of the largest retailers in the world has actually decided to move out of the Singapore market. So the distribution of those cards in the Singapore market is a business which has actually been reduced in Q2 for us very specifically.”
international: Lost Singapore card revenue had no material EBITDA impact
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · Q&A · p. 16
international: Lost Singapore card revenue had no material EBITDA impact
“So some of that revenues have actually gone away, but you are not seeing any material impact of that when it comes to the EBITDA line.”
Other
Q2 revenue grew about 24% and adjusted EBITDA about 27% year-on-year
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 3
Q2 revenue grew about 24% and adjusted EBITDA about 27% year-on-year
“So as you know, we came in at about 24% growth on the revenue side and as far as EBITDA is concerned, adjusted EBITDA is concerned, we came in at about 27% growth on a year-on-year basis”
flow based income: Flow-based income grew about 25% year-on-year
Amrish Rau · Chief Executive Officer · p. 4
flow based income: Flow-based income grew about 25% year-on-year
“Coming to the flow based income, the flow based income in Pine Labs actually grew by about 25% on a year-on-year basis.”
Effective tax rate lower than previous quarter
Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 16
Effective tax rate lower than previous quarter
“Also, we see an effective tax rate, Nitin, has gone down compared to the earlier quarter”
international: International mix is a long-term measure, not quarterly
Sameer Kamath · Group Chief Financial Officer · Q&A · p. 15
international: International mix is a long-term measure, not quarterly
“So mix is a long-term guidance. It is not something that can be trapped on a quarter-on-quarter basis.”
Sources
- Earnings call transcript, Q2 FY27 Filed 4 Nov 2026 · 28 pages
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